CLAY: I am reading we got the article up at OutKick you can read this, they also dove into it. This is overall approval ratings from Gallup. When Joe Biden started office — and I understand some of you out there gonna say, I don’t trust the poll. Polls are always wrong. This is a consistent poll, right? This is Gallup. They regularly do approval ratings. They’ve been doing ’em for decades, generations. When Joe Biden took office, they gave him a 57% approval rating. That is in late January, he takes the oath of office. Between his inauguration and right now, he has had a drop — his approval rating now in Gallup is 42%. His drop is the biggest drop in approval ratings for a president since World War II. That’s a whoa moment for me, Buck. That’s multiple generations. That’s a lot — that’s almost 80 years, basically, of data on presidents. No president, based on this data, has had a worse 10 months going all the way back to World War II. Does that surprise you that Biden has got that bad data? Or — and how much worse can it get is one of the questions.
BUCK: Let’s think of it this way, right? One thing that I’ve had to get used to, you know, from back in the day when you actually could have debates with libs on the air on cable news, doesn’t really happen. I mean, when I got into this and, you know, you and I came in the media roughly the same time period, and you could actually go on, and you’d fight about, you know, is the Obama administration doing well?
CLAY: Yes.
BUCK: And you could be a conservative go on TV, is the Bush administration doing well? You’d go on TV. And you’d have sometimes things I know they’re gonna hit me with X, I know they’re gonna say look at the — you know, look at the unemployment numbers or look at the amount of people that are happy with their new health care, they can stay on their parents insurance, these things that you knew the talking points that would be thrown if you that as a conservative you were gonna have to parry and explain and deal with. I bring it up, Clay, because the Biden administration’s got nothing right now. And you can see it. You can feel it. When you and I are sitting here talking about the incredible collapse of their ratings, when we’re looking — ratings. Well, kind of. Polling, close enough, same idea in politics. But as we see this, what is the thing right now? If they put, you know, Jen Psaki in a side-by-side with you and me and she was supposed to talk about what a great administration that has been for this year, the things she’s say — would say would be somewhat laughable and we would easily be able to crush without exception, the border, the economy, Afghanistan, you know, go down the list of things that people care about, inflation and covid, covid cases, nothing. They don’t have anything right now on the self-that they can point to and say speaking of shelves, empty shelves, Biden, there’s nothing they can point to. So that I think is a really strong indicator of how weak a position they’re in right now.
CLAY: So when I look at this and I see, my goodness, ’cause he came in — and remember, Buck, the media’s just started to get a little bit tough, and I mean a little bit tough on Biden in the last couple months. I think Afghanistan for many people was a pivot point in terms of starting to ask difficult questions ’cause to your point Trump became such a good or evil dynamic for the media that they wouldn’t even allow anyone on CNN or MSNBC to even offer a defense of the Trump presidency. That’s how aggressively opposed both of those networks became. And so I look around now and yet we’re maybe we need to talk about this and we are during the course of today’s show we’re gonna talk about taxing this unrealized capital gains idea, billionaires tax, this is it for Biden. If he gets this budget deal through his finished because the House is gonna flip, nothing’s getting passed in 2022, he’s not going to run, I don’t believe, again. If you were sitting odds, what do you think the chances are Biden runs in 2024?
BUCK: Oh, man. That’s a — that is a super tough question right now ’cause I think the play is for Dem — and sates shameless one, right? But we’re talking about Democrats here, Clay, so come on, shame, who cares. I think the play for them is to have Biden run and then step down in the second term because I do believe they recognize how much weakness there is in a Kamala candidacy versus the narrative for Biden becomes that he has passed the torch to the first, you know — the first —
CLAY: Black woman, yes.
BUCK: — minority female president, and that then becomes, oh, forget about the fact that was it essentially a bait-and-switch election but one more — I brought up Afghan and I have been thinking more about this because what they sold us on New Yorkers they’ll know what I’m talking about, for Bloomberg, Mayor Bloomberg, horrible on all of the things but overall a competent administrator of a Nanny State Big Government approach. A compensate administrator of that, right? That can be harder to fight against because if the trains are running on time, think of it like compensate socialism. Still bad but, you know, Venezuela is like the end state of incompetent socialism right? What we’re getting with the Biden administration is the Big Government policies we warned about executed incompetently and that’s why I think Afghanistan was so dangerous for them because people said, you’re not even good at doing the bad ideas that we know aren’t going to work.
CLAY: It crystallized for a lot of people ’cause the general position is people don’t pay attention to foreign policy. I’d say the exception to that rule is when the major foreign policy disaster also reflects what’s going on in America. And, you know, we’ve got the border caravan headed this way. I mean, one of the most intriguing parts of the Biden presidency right now — and again we’re talking about, according to Gallup which has been around one of the earliest polling companies ever for people out there who just — this is the biggest collapse in support for a president in almost everyone’s lives who’s listening to us right now going all the way back to World War II. All right? So how in the world does this change? And to the point I was asking you, Buck, about a larger context here, what are they gonna do? How do they get out of this are you the? And is there any way that they could even get Joe Biden on the campaign trail to get ready for 2024 even before you get to the general, does he have the sort of ability to even be on the road — remember they hit him for 2020. He’s only gonna be worse for 2023 when he would have to win in nomination again.
BUCK: You know, there’s a lot of surrogates out there they’re still focused on the midterms because they realize the Biden — this is — the reason — and we should talk about the latest for their bill — we got a couple things to get this hour, the latest with the spending bill, which includes this billionaires tax that’s not a billionaires tax, Clay, it’s just a tax on billionaires or — not a wealth tax. It’s a tax on wealthy people from Janet Yellen. It’s pretty hilarious. But also they recognize that if they do lose control in the mermaids, Biden agenda is fished. I mean, there’s no overarching vision there’s no middle ground they’re going to get they went scorched-earth. Let’s not forget they went $1.9 trillion of spending without Republicans earlier this year and that was all a big cash infusion so they’ve already been going wild with the purse strings but if they don’t get this through this is their one and only shot so I think they realize how much hangs on all this.